tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4041089218060371051.post1743792344585831397..comments2023-10-25T04:32:52.345-04:00Comments on Just Blowing Smoke...: A Voice That Must Not Be SilencedTimothy W Higginshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17118861693269565715noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4041089218060371051.post-26517430321728587092009-05-27T12:49:32.905-04:002009-05-27T12:49:32.905-04:00Roland,
It is the brightest lights that draw the ...Roland,<br /><br />It is the brightest lights that draw the most pests. Thus people like you and Maggie suffer far greater assault from the internet trolls than I do.<br /><br />While you and Maggie may not always agree on how, no one who has read the work of either of you could doubt both your sincerity and your commitment to make Toledo a better place.Timothy W Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17118861693269565715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4041089218060371051.post-78159683635861642882009-05-27T12:43:50.877-04:002009-05-27T12:43:50.877-04:00While I have not always agreed with Maggie Thurber...While I have not always agreed with Maggie Thurber, I have never doubted her sincerity to be of public service, a trait which I greatly admire.<br /><br />In regards to the anonymous flaming trolls with the "nom de plumes" as you have stated: <br />I do believe I have pretty much gone on record with my thoughts about them. <br />Your description Mr. Higgins, sir, of their comments, i.e. "cowardly," is much more kind than I would have used, although it certainly is an intrinsic component of the descriptive phraseology for which I have become known.Roland Hansenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14510269002146276854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4041089218060371051.post-72593918305391815012009-05-26T09:22:43.433-04:002009-05-26T09:22:43.433-04:00Tim,
To clarify: I came across wrong. I didn't me...Tim, <br />To clarify: I came across wrong. I didn't mean that she did wrong, what I meant was that she was a casualty... It seems those who think like we do, and especially those like Maggie and others who speak up are more susceptible to scrutiny... I know Maggie will persevere.Winky Twinkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10963969249789092099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4041089218060371051.post-53298298810010327042009-05-26T03:29:54.824-04:002009-05-26T03:29:54.824-04:00How this mistake has been handled transcends the m...How this mistake has been handled transcends the mistake itself. I think Maggie has handled it quite well--with honor, humility, contrition, and accountability. Therefore, it should not only be welcomed, but also forgiven. <br /><br />It is so much different in contrast to what we are so used to seeing from the mayor (and others who deliberately obfuscate, and mislead) on a daily basis, viz., "I'm in charge here, you're not", or "Get a life" or always playing the victim of some conspiracy. <br /><br />That's not humility, it's arrogance; that's not contrition, it's unrepentance; that's not accountability, it's wreckless abandon and lack of shame.<br /><br />Maggie cannot be legitimately accused of hypocrisy, because a hypocrite means someone who appears to be someone they're not. Because Maggie has stated publicly that she includes herself in accepting consequences when [rather than if] people make mistakes, Maggie is no actor. <br /><br />The principles which Maggie stands for, by and large correspond to reality, they are coherent, cogent, and consistant.<br /><br />Something is seriously wrong with people who "strain out a gnat yet swallow a camel". <br /><br />These are the same people who are always talking about equality, fairness and justice yet in practice, they overlook the mayor's numerous misdeeds; who apparently is answerable to no one, while they gloat over Maggie's failure to credit her sources. <br /><br />Let's put this in the right perspective which is not to minimize the seriousness of the offense, but to also see Maggie's willingness to accept the consequences which was without hesitation, a sincere, heartfelt, humble apology and resignation. <br /><br />That is class. It says a great deal and she should be respected for that. <br /><br />Wrong is wrong, mistakes are mistakes regardless of who the person is or what their status is. <br /><br />The thing that distinguishes someone who is honorable from someone who is dishonorable, or what separates a true public servant from a tyrant who is to be unquestionably obeyed and served, is humility, contrition, and accountability.<br /><br />In my own experience, my problems did not really begin not so much from a misdeed itself, but in trying to correct it by denial, blaming others, lying etc.Jay Otthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08170850586783653546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4041089218060371051.post-31236899577266222302009-05-25T22:13:07.654-04:002009-05-25T22:13:07.654-04:00WT,
I do not believe that Maggie Thurber has fall...WT,<br /><br />I do not believe that Maggie Thurber has fallen. I could understand however, if she was feeling just a little under-appreciated right now.<br /><br />My motive in writing here, and I believe in the comments that are bound to follow, is to show how much she is.Timothy W Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17118861693269565715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4041089218060371051.post-84452622658451745152009-05-25T22:01:28.832-04:002009-05-25T22:01:28.832-04:00All,
Though I don't know Maggie that well I can't...All,<br /><br />Though I don't know Maggie that well I can't see her buckling under the "pressure" of some blathering bloggers, she's tougher and has more "pluck" that that ;-)Hooda Thunkit (Dave Zawodny)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13176392380086227377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4041089218060371051.post-56696230281272719272009-05-25T21:54:53.992-04:002009-05-25T21:54:53.992-04:00OH MAGGIE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Noooooooooooo.......OH MAGGIE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Noooooooooooo...... thought I can't blame you..... I so sorry to see yet another hero fallen.............Winky Twinkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10963969249789092099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4041089218060371051.post-19166764174419540802009-05-25T21:47:20.211-04:002009-05-25T21:47:20.211-04:00HT,
I too trust that Maggie will be back with us ...HT,<br /><br />I too trust that Maggie will be back with us when the babble of the mindless has settled down to a dull roar. <br /><br />I was likewise pleased to see Brian Wilson take a position in her favor in his own inimitable way in the TFP. He showed no fear or hesitation in expressing his feelings about the online drones.Timothy W Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17118861693269565715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4041089218060371051.post-82735676103981548322009-05-25T21:40:52.270-04:002009-05-25T21:40:52.270-04:00Roman,
You've said a mouthful here and I hope and...Roman,<br /><br />You've said a mouthful here and I hope and believe that Maggie will not give up.Timothy W Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17118861693269565715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4041089218060371051.post-34086827334122727072009-05-25T21:31:08.395-04:002009-05-25T21:31:08.395-04:00Tim,
Excellent post on this subject!
And, as a f...Tim,<br /><br />Excellent post on this subject!<br /><br />And, as a fiscal conservative, I would mourn the loss of Maggie's clear and no nonsense approach to challenging the stupidity that seems rampant in our loco government and her enlightening of the rest of us on our government, how it is supposed to work, and when it doesn't work.<br /><br />I take solace in the fact that she will return, just as soon as all who fear her presence have finished venting all of their vitriol and "vile" bile...<br /><br />Until that day comes, many of will feel the loss. . .<br /><br />IMNHO, the collective I.Q. and integrity of the Internet just took a very large hit, which can only be undone with her prompt return...Hooda Thunkit (Dave Zawodny)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13176392380086227377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4041089218060371051.post-20282208288304221192009-05-25T21:25:40.193-04:002009-05-25T21:25:40.193-04:00What is happening to Maggie Thurber is almost to b...What is happening to Maggie Thurber is almost to be expected.<br /><br />In this city you cannot be a conservative and express your thoughts without having every nit picked. I wonder how many people on Superior Street are assigned to do the requisite inquisitions?<br /><br />While plagiarism can be quite serious, forgetting to source an article, in the grand scheme of things is not a big deal. There is a Pulitzer Prize winning writer of the NY Times and the current Vice President of the United States who have committed considerably worse deeds.<br /><br />Is there any wonder why it is so difficult to get quality people to pursue elected office.<br /><br />I echo your thought that Maggie will not be silenced!Romanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07016139270835685661noreply@blogger.com